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Re: What Turbos are best for CE lancers.

factory s15 t28 is same as s14 t28.
i.e a non ball bearing version of the gt2560r ball bearing which is essentially the same as a stock s15 japspec turbo.
you can tell the difference between the two by the chra.

the chra are different visually as the oil inlet flange spacing is different on the two.

Im using a gt2560r on my new build and also used on on a 4g15 turbo build. .64 turbine housing
Spools quick even on the 4g15.
We're hitting 10psi by 3500rpm in 3rd but that could be sooner in 4th.
Will need to do some datalogging in 4th and see but it doesnt loose to the gt2554r ball bearing by much at all.
 
Re: What Turbos are best for CE lancers.

Might be time to touch on internals abit.

Pistons and rod setup should be the same either version on the 4g93t so CC or CE. Theres not many on here running forged gear though to give feedback.

I know you have the option of cp pistons and spool rods for around the $1400 mark. I spose going to that much trouble and if running a fair bit of psi best to go arp head studs aswell.

Also h beam rods on ebay for around the $600 mark..


Hens like to comment on what you suggest is a decent compression for turbo lancers?
 
Is there many options for turbo'ing a 4g94? Or is the compression too high? I've heard that the 4g93 isn't to different in manifold sizes to the 94, any truth behind that?
 
they are similar heads, so i assume the manifolds would be very similar (besides the 94's extended length on the exhuast runners for its extractors/manifold to clear the bottom of the block)

dont know how well they go turbo'd tho
 
Alright so have done a quick search for 93 and take your pick.

Pauter rods, Crowe rods, spool,duratech. I beams and H beams
Different branded H beams yet atleast 3 look the same physical I guess any are better then the thin rods in the 93's.

Obivously if hitting big psi maybe pick something a bit more well known.
 
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Can anyone confirm from trying or measuring wether a 4g63 turbo manifold fits the 93 ? They look very similar.
Or anyone got gasket lying around they could measure?


Also wether the evo1-3 manifold is same bolt up pattern as evo4-up?

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Edit. Going of some ebay gaskets the 4g63 gasket hole to hole is a bit longer then the 93 sohc gasket. Not sure about the dohc 93 yet though.



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4g93 flanges are same doch vs sohc

4g63 flange have been same since the engine was released.
however you cannot just mount the manifold from a different generation g63 engine.
You need to account for the air con power steering and turbo orientation.
evo 4 and up use the split flange.

you cannot use the 4g63 manifold on a 93 engine.
Other you would think people would have realised this already and start doing such installations over the years.
 
^^ Yer I figured that although would be great to know exactly what is the difference as in complete measurements. If I remember next time i'm in auto one might ask if they have both exhuast gaskets.


Okay well you've comfirmed something there though Hens sohc and dohc 93 is same exhaust bolt on pattern so

4g92 94 93 sohc or dohc share the same exhuast bolt pattern correct? So the dpr performance manifold on page 1 should fit them.
 
Speaking of exhuast manifold fitment with 4g63 and dohc 93 gear anyone confirm or denie if 4g63 springs cams etc fit in the 93. ??


i remember James saying stuff about 93 cam in the 2ltr 94 is a stage 1 cam to it just wondering if DOHC 93 be same for 4g63
 
Re: What Turbos are best for CE lancers.

NICE AS said:
Regards to going turbo and what you will usually need to factor in:

- bigger injectors
- remap fuel system (unichip, safc, etc.)
- intercooler
- turbo
- cooler pipes
- tapped oil sump
- decomp plate
- oil and water lines teed off the pressure sender
- turbo exhaust manifold and modified exhaust pipe
- fuel pump and pressure regulator depending on boost levels.
- modplate or engineering.

forged internals if you wanting to run decent psi and not *meow* footing.


Intercooler setup


On a standard front bar ce lancer (h) 300mm intercooler is to big to fit really. 180mm will fill the middle gap of the stock bar and 220mm will fit with out the intercooler petruding under the stock bar or interferring with the tow hook.
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correct re the huge to-do list.
CM5A is best for an easy/reliable forced induction conversion but you need a whole 1/2 cut to do it properly.
You'll get about 120kw atw which for fwd is mental.
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120kw, i would think a bit more than that, and CM5A's are hard to come by.
 
150kw engine take around 17% powerloss through to the wheels = 124.5kw roughly, makes it seem kinda sad when you do it that way. Although make it sound better by saying it in HP 166hp!!!
 
mdclear said:
120kw, i would think a bit more than that, and CM5A's are hard to come by.
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be around that stock most who have had them are usually dyno'd with more boost and exhuast etc so 130-140kw
 
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