Alright guys post up some well written stuff and ideas and I'll help collate it all into one post to help out all the newbies trying to decide pod vs panel.
The Basics for Induction n00bs:
The Law
Firstly the laws about having a pod filter or aftermarket filter system:
1. It must be securely bracketed to the chassis (this applies for all states)
2. It must be enclosed in either a engine bay box or a pod cover that covers 70% of the pod (as far as i have heard)
(law #2 does not apply in QLD)
Please note that whilst we attempt to give some guidance on here and have taken due care in ensuring information is correct and accurate, please if in doubt confirm for YOURSELF with your local government authorities. AusLancer and it's Administration will accept no liability for information contained within this thread
Pod Filters
Cold Air Intake
Pro's:
*Can give the car a sucking sound under heavy acceleration
*Generally gives the best performance gains
Con's:
*Go through a deep puddle and potentially suck up water
*Legality of these is still very questionable
*Generally the dearest option for induction mods
Short Ram Intake
Pro's:
*Nice throaty engine sound
*Can look good in the engine bay
Con's:
*Generally they suck in hot air and you'll lose performance (hot air is less dense which means less fuel can be injected)
*Generally you'll get worse fuel economy
*95% of the ways people do these are illegal and will earn you a defect and/or fine
Panels Filters
K&N Panels Filters
Pro's:
*Can improve engine note
*Easiest way of modifying your intake
*Relatively cheap and will last forever (just buy the $20 cleaning kit)
*Claims to marginally improve power and engine response
Con's:
*Over-oiling the filter after oiling has been suspected to cause MAF (4G15 lancers don't have one) malfunction
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Various Induction Modification Products For The CE:
1.8L / 4g93 engine
now all the info u need to know on a 1.8L CAI or pod setup
1.8L (4g93) engines have a MAF sensor (mass air flow - sensor) which u need for the car to run (fig.1)
places like Autobarn and supercheap, and sometimes Repco sell adaptor plates which bolt on to the square end of your MAF and give it a round piped end again (fig.2)
Fig.1 (not actual lancer one but looks similar)
Fig.2
so basically fistly here is some links to places you can buy setups for the 1.8L lancer (4g93) and a little review on each one
http://members.iinet.net.au/~henry.pham/intakes.html
firstly Hens performance: around about ~$260 with out a doubt the best setup you can get for performance, bolt on, quite strait forward to fit, and comes with everything you need
pipes the pod to behind the left hand fogg light, gets 100% cold air/fresh air
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
hens also offer a short ram intake that is enclosed, and if your going to go with a short ram intake i suggest this one
Pro's: very nice throttle note, easy to modify into a CAI should u chose later on (a flexy pipe would do it)
Con's sucks hot air, so you lose a bit of power and use a bit more fuel
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?pa ... t&Itemid=1
RPW (racing performance works): (cost on website) similar kit to hens performance, pipes down to behind bar
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
okay thats the end of the 1.8L section but you may want to read on there is plenty of stuff left for you to learn
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1.5L / 4G15l
so your a 1.5L (4g15) lancer driver, here is all you need to know (altho read the 1.8L section aswell for extra info on some things)
1. your car doesnt use a MAF sensor (see 1.8L section for more info)
2. your car uses a MAP sensor instead which isnt on the air intake tube so dont worry about it (its on the plenum or intake manifold which you shouldnt touch)
http://members.iinet.net.au/~henry.pham/intakes.html
firstly Hens performance: around about ~$260 simialr setup to the 1.8 but its a bit cheaper coz we dont have a MAF
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
hens also offer a short ram intake that is enclosed, and if your going to go with a short ram intake i suggest this one
Pro's: very nice throttle note, easy to modify into a CAI should u chose later on (a flexy pipe would do it)
Con's sucks hot air, so you lose a bit of power and use a bit more fuel
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?pa ... t&Itemid=1
RPW: offer a quite cheap CAI pipes the pod down to the front bumper, but its cheap coz it doesnt look that fancy, but it does the ob and looks quite STOCK/ oem
Pro's: sporty throttle note, Extra power (cold air), and cheap-ish, easy to fit, looks stock standard
Con's piped pod to a splashable area (pod is already oiled but can be protected even more with a pod filter shield (fig.3 and 4))
Fig.3 and 4
okay so thats the end of the 4g15 or 1.5L section, please read on for extra info and handy tips you may need
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UNIVERSAL KITS AND PARTS
K&N: they have the APOLLO setup to find it for sale search "k&n apollo" on ebay
these are a very good kit
Pro's: + extra power (cold air), + sporty throttle note, + oiled pod, + convertable to short ram if you so choose (lol) keeps filter away from water
Con's price tag (because of the brand)
another universal kit is this one: (search "pod filter starter kit" on ebay)
Pro's: + minimal gains, + sporty throttle note, + convertable to short ram if you so choose (lol) keeps filter away from water, very cheap
Con's sucks hot air most of the time as filter is exposed in engine bay
now for some good cheap pods that are covered (coz the uncovered pods are easy to find anywhere)
$40 very cheap, buts still good, and covered, +looks pretty nice and easy to convert to CAI with some flexi pipe, search "air ram pod filter" on ebay
$35 another cheapy but still a good one, covered, and looks very good, as always easy to convert to CAI later down the track, search ebay "Carbon Fibre Universal Pod Filter"
another universal way it to, remove the lower resonators (look for the box(s) infront of your left wheel well) remove them
then pipe a flexi pipe from your front bumper to the stock air box like so
okay in all seriousness have a look around for other ones, this is ust a guide, there may be one i have missed that may be of use to you
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additional info
here is a handy diagram for you 1.8 users but it also relates to my next topic the "top resonator"
okay see the thing called 'resonator' on the diagram, this is used to dull the sound of the intake, and make it more quiet
it is also speculated that it provides a buffer for a bit better power, but this is so minimal its not funny, so if you so choose it is removable
once you remove it you will have this hole, and then you ask me "wont hot air get in that hole"
to which i say yes! and its very easy to plug, and everyone has the tools
simply get yourself a Coke bottle lid (or any other soft drink bottle lid)
and push lid into hole then tighten clamp around it..... done
alternativly you can be cool like i was and use this mini breater and a bit of PVC conduit to make ur intake look a tiny bit cooler
the filter here doesnt do much at all, it really doesnt suck much air to make it worth while, which is why i no longer have it on
just looks cool is all
for removing the lower resonator which hides infront of your front left wheel well, there is 4-5 bolts quite easy to find and fairly easy to undo
that pulls out the bottom end and leaves a hole to put piping for the CAI down
to remove the stock air box undo the MAP sensor or pipe going to the box, open the latches on the top, pull out the pannel filter
remove the left hand side of the box it just wiggles off some holes, then look into the right hand side of the box there are 3 screws, unscrew them then box comes off... done!
Thats all, hope you got the info you were after, if there is anything i have missed or something you'd like me to add let me know coz this was a bit rushed
Thanks to resuliac for assisting with making this thread.
The Basics for Induction n00bs:
The Law
Firstly the laws about having a pod filter or aftermarket filter system:
1. It must be securely bracketed to the chassis (this applies for all states)
2. It must be enclosed in either a engine bay box or a pod cover that covers 70% of the pod (as far as i have heard)
(law #2 does not apply in QLD)
Please note that whilst we attempt to give some guidance on here and have taken due care in ensuring information is correct and accurate, please if in doubt confirm for YOURSELF with your local government authorities. AusLancer and it's Administration will accept no liability for information contained within this thread
Pod Filters
Cold Air Intake
Pro's:
*Can give the car a sucking sound under heavy acceleration
*Generally gives the best performance gains
Con's:
*Go through a deep puddle and potentially suck up water
*Legality of these is still very questionable
*Generally the dearest option for induction mods
Short Ram Intake
Pro's:
*Nice throaty engine sound
*Can look good in the engine bay
Con's:
*Generally they suck in hot air and you'll lose performance (hot air is less dense which means less fuel can be injected)
*Generally you'll get worse fuel economy
*95% of the ways people do these are illegal and will earn you a defect and/or fine
Panels Filters
K&N Panels Filters
Pro's:
*Can improve engine note
*Easiest way of modifying your intake
*Relatively cheap and will last forever (just buy the $20 cleaning kit)
*Claims to marginally improve power and engine response
Con's:
*Over-oiling the filter after oiling has been suspected to cause MAF (4G15 lancers don't have one) malfunction
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Various Induction Modification Products For The CE:
1.8L / 4g93 engine
now all the info u need to know on a 1.8L CAI or pod setup
1.8L (4g93) engines have a MAF sensor (mass air flow - sensor) which u need for the car to run (fig.1)
places like Autobarn and supercheap, and sometimes Repco sell adaptor plates which bolt on to the square end of your MAF and give it a round piped end again (fig.2)
Fig.1 (not actual lancer one but looks similar)
Fig.2
so basically fistly here is some links to places you can buy setups for the 1.8L lancer (4g93) and a little review on each one
http://members.iinet.net.au/~henry.pham/intakes.html
firstly Hens performance: around about ~$260 with out a doubt the best setup you can get for performance, bolt on, quite strait forward to fit, and comes with everything you need
pipes the pod to behind the left hand fogg light, gets 100% cold air/fresh air
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
hens also offer a short ram intake that is enclosed, and if your going to go with a short ram intake i suggest this one
Pro's: very nice throttle note, easy to modify into a CAI should u chose later on (a flexy pipe would do it)
Con's sucks hot air, so you lose a bit of power and use a bit more fuel
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?pa ... t&Itemid=1
RPW (racing performance works): (cost on website) similar kit to hens performance, pipes down to behind bar
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
okay thats the end of the 1.8L section but you may want to read on there is plenty of stuff left for you to learn
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1.5L / 4G15l
so your a 1.5L (4g15) lancer driver, here is all you need to know (altho read the 1.8L section aswell for extra info on some things)
1. your car doesnt use a MAF sensor (see 1.8L section for more info)
2. your car uses a MAP sensor instead which isnt on the air intake tube so dont worry about it (its on the plenum or intake manifold which you shouldnt touch)
http://members.iinet.net.au/~henry.pham/intakes.html
firstly Hens performance: around about ~$260 simialr setup to the 1.8 but its a bit cheaper coz we dont have a MAF
Pro's: gives extra power from cold air, gives a sporty growl to the trottle note and looks very sexy
Con's more expencive pod setup (but you get what u pay for) pipes the pod to a splashable area (fixed by having covered and/or oiled pod)
hens also offer a short ram intake that is enclosed, and if your going to go with a short ram intake i suggest this one
Pro's: very nice throttle note, easy to modify into a CAI should u chose later on (a flexy pipe would do it)
Con's sucks hot air, so you lose a bit of power and use a bit more fuel
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?pa ... t&Itemid=1
RPW: offer a quite cheap CAI pipes the pod down to the front bumper, but its cheap coz it doesnt look that fancy, but it does the ob and looks quite STOCK/ oem
Pro's: sporty throttle note, Extra power (cold air), and cheap-ish, easy to fit, looks stock standard
Con's piped pod to a splashable area (pod is already oiled but can be protected even more with a pod filter shield (fig.3 and 4))
Fig.3 and 4
okay so thats the end of the 4g15 or 1.5L section, please read on for extra info and handy tips you may need
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UNIVERSAL KITS AND PARTS
K&N: they have the APOLLO setup to find it for sale search "k&n apollo" on ebay
these are a very good kit
Pro's: + extra power (cold air), + sporty throttle note, + oiled pod, + convertable to short ram if you so choose (lol) keeps filter away from water
Con's price tag (because of the brand)
another universal kit is this one: (search "pod filter starter kit" on ebay)
Pro's: + minimal gains, + sporty throttle note, + convertable to short ram if you so choose (lol) keeps filter away from water, very cheap
Con's sucks hot air most of the time as filter is exposed in engine bay
now for some good cheap pods that are covered (coz the uncovered pods are easy to find anywhere)
$40 very cheap, buts still good, and covered, +looks pretty nice and easy to convert to CAI with some flexi pipe, search "air ram pod filter" on ebay
$35 another cheapy but still a good one, covered, and looks very good, as always easy to convert to CAI later down the track, search ebay "Carbon Fibre Universal Pod Filter"
another universal way it to, remove the lower resonators (look for the box(s) infront of your left wheel well) remove them
then pipe a flexi pipe from your front bumper to the stock air box like so
okay in all seriousness have a look around for other ones, this is ust a guide, there may be one i have missed that may be of use to you
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
additional info
here is a handy diagram for you 1.8 users but it also relates to my next topic the "top resonator"
okay see the thing called 'resonator' on the diagram, this is used to dull the sound of the intake, and make it more quiet
it is also speculated that it provides a buffer for a bit better power, but this is so minimal its not funny, so if you so choose it is removable
once you remove it you will have this hole, and then you ask me "wont hot air get in that hole"
to which i say yes! and its very easy to plug, and everyone has the tools
simply get yourself a Coke bottle lid (or any other soft drink bottle lid)
and push lid into hole then tighten clamp around it..... done
alternativly you can be cool like i was and use this mini breater and a bit of PVC conduit to make ur intake look a tiny bit cooler
the filter here doesnt do much at all, it really doesnt suck much air to make it worth while, which is why i no longer have it on
just looks cool is all
for removing the lower resonator which hides infront of your front left wheel well, there is 4-5 bolts quite easy to find and fairly easy to undo
that pulls out the bottom end and leaves a hole to put piping for the CAI down
to remove the stock air box undo the MAP sensor or pipe going to the box, open the latches on the top, pull out the pannel filter
remove the left hand side of the box it just wiggles off some holes, then look into the right hand side of the box there are 3 screws, unscrew them then box comes off... done!
Thats all, hope you got the info you were after, if there is anything i have missed or something you'd like me to add let me know coz this was a bit rushed
Thanks to resuliac for assisting with making this thread.