Decent track car on a budget

ahh, when you said BMW i was like, um not so cheap and heavy as fu*k, plus they have a 1.9l 4 cyl that isn't powerfull enough to pull the weight, but then read a BMW under 1k, damn that would be old, and a hole other story, very hard to find parts.
 
Geophray said:
DR1FT said:
mx5's ive heard are very good on a track, being short, light, low and RWD

My mates got an MX5, his is FWD...

lol.......







mx5 or excel or gemini or hq. just go to a race meet and walk around the pits you will find heaps for sale that are already race prepped and might even come with the trailers etc
 
Have you ever driven on a track before?

Maybe learn to drive around one before splashing a tonne of cash on something. You don't need massive amounts of power, and getting something that feels fast is probably better than getting something that is fast but you spent next to nothing on as it wont be reliable.

Turbo = no. Not on your budget. Think about where the car will be revving the entire time. Can you afford to replace it if it goes bang? It will go bang.

In saying that, get an MX5.

They are car sized go karts. Plenty of parts around, proven track cars, massive community for them so lots of information around. They look tits with a roll bar also.
 
Royzie has a good idea about going to the track and looking out for cars forsale there. I plan on going to the track and watching and hopefully talking to those who race before I get into it.

If I can I wouldnt mind one thats rego so I can drive to and from, this is where the N/a cars comes into play hopefully bit more reliable.

No never driven on track and probably wont for another year or so until I can afford it a bit easier. If i was gonna get a turbo it would most likely be a gsr as I've had one before and they can take a bit of a beating and are close to my budget.

Finding parts depending on what make I choose will be harder then fixing parts Engine wise etc as can do most myself.

Guess just have to work it out a bit more Mx-5 will be the largest purchase out of all unless i can find one that has cosmetic damage or something.

But valid points none the less. Anyone else has any other cars to throw in the mix?
 
Some costs involved:

500 for license and driver training
1500 on some coilovers and strut braces
1000 ?? on semi's
1000 on basic mods

Any other basic costs to get started?
 
mdclear said:
ahh, when you said BMW i was like, um not so cheap and heavy as fu*k, plus they have a 1.9l 4 cyl that isn't powerfull enough to pull the weight, but then read a BMW under 1k, damn that would be old, and a hole other story, very hard to find parts.


Yer e30's mid 80 to early 90's around that era I like the shape of them and seem pretty cheap to buy 2k and under. Not as cheap as a excel or mirage I guess.

Might be able to pick up a mirage under 1k at a auction and there cheap on parts whole motors for $150 or less and 1.5's just seem to take a flogging big time then move up to something a bit better once I'm in the know.

69kw = 955 kg might be able to strip it down to 900 kg with me in there too.
 
NICE AS said:
Some costs involved:

500 for license and driver training
1500 on some coilovers and strut braces
1000 ?? on semi's
1000 on basic mods

Any other basic costs to get started?

Coilover cost depends on the car, and what is available really. I know MX-5 stuff can be quite pricey, but it depends if you go brand new or second hand.

You really need to investigate what kind of car you want, then go and look at pricing of gear for them. If they cost too much, or you can see it blowing out easily you either need to up the budget or pick another car to fall back on.

From people who go to the track regularly - it's not a cheap exercise. Everything breaks much quicker than it would if it was your daily driver. The car is under more stress and you need to replace things quicker. Tyres last nowhere near as long, likewise with brakes, brake fluid, oil needs changing more frequently too.

Research is probably your best bet. See if you can find a dedicated track day forum/club. They will be the ones who are best able to tell you what everything really costs and what is the best budget banger to use.
 
Couple of others

Nissan Exa - 93kw and 1145 kgs
Ford Capri - 75kw and 1040 kgs
Toyota MR2 SW20 - 125kw and 1280kgs
Toyota Celica - 1994 - 100kw and 1190 kgs (but 195nm torque)
Nissan NXR - 106kw and 1165kgs
The Honda CRX (after 1992) is my favourite - getting 115kw out of a 1.6l engine!
 
Something else you can pick up pretty cheap that I dont thinks been mentioned, Integra vti-r. Type R would be better but not real cheap unless you buy a stuffed one
 
You can pick up NXR's for about $2.5k, usually with ~200kkms on the clock. Cheapest way to get an SR20-stock car.

And wouldn't a GTiR be a tad expensive, ~$7-8k? I'm not too sure on how much he is willing to stretch his budget though. You'd hope it'd be a bit considering it's an expensive hobby.
 
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if u ever get a chance. check out dave (demost) ride thread on MLGA. he did my springs for me and took me for a race round the back streets of black town in his 1.8l N/a MR lancer coupe.
that thing flies! its track spec. its got sways, struts, rollcages, stripped interior, removed anything n everyhting thats not needed in the engine bay. every engine upgrade (cept a turbo).

i actually wana perhaps hit up some track days in the next year (once i get coils). maybe try n track spec my lancer?
 
dont do it josh, u put too much work into how good it looks to track spec it
plus if u went track spec u would have to lose the kit, it weighs too much :p
 
Joshyewahh said:
i actually wana perhaps hit up some track days in the next year (once i get coils). maybe try n track spec my lancer?

Would be fun... but you'd need an engine bay like Myles (unless you go turbo) plus all the money you spent on body kit, etc. would be wasted.

What happened to getting a Supra, Josh?
 
Seriously just whack a set of coilovers on and some reasonable tyres (no cheap asian crap, atleast something respectable like a Kumho KU31) and go for a track day at Wakefield Josh! Oh might also be worth getting some reasonable brakes pads and get your mechanic to flush out your brakes with some new fluid.

I did it in my CJ last year and it was a ball! The odd day or two at Wakefield wont be too bad for your car and so long as you dont push yourself (and your car) to hard you'll be right! Your only on the track for about 10-15mins at a time.

EDIT: Actually looking at how big your rims are I'd grab some cheap 15s off eBay. You'll handle like *poo* on such a thin sidewalled tyre....
 
if i end up making it into more of a track car. ill be keeping my bodt kit. yeh, im looking into coils and brake upgrades for next year'ish. i wana get some 15's or 16's with good tyres for track, n either keep my current rims, or when i need new tyres for them eventually, get some new 18's.

exhaust is being done properly this upcomming weekend, and im going to ask the guys bout their ECU n dyno tunning packages.
 
Joshyewahh said:
exhaust is being done properly this upcomming weekend, and im going to ask the guys bout their ECU n dyno tunning packages.
\No offence but dyno tuning a CE isn't really worth it unless you start doing some serious engine mods... The gains compared to the large outlay for a standalone ECU or piggyback make it not worth it...
 
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