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wild_mr_coupe
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to install em all u to is earth them and then its plug n play there all set out to only fit into the rite clip so its pretty easy
lancer02ce
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wild_mr_coupe said:
my mate had them defected in his silvia, one night walking out of work go to our cars tun the lights on then cops come racing over and hand out tickets
im running 8000K with projectors has lasted me quite a while now with absolutly no problems (from ebay)
if you want i can make up a kit with hids and projectors for u?
for around $200 and then they are completely legal
only down side is you have to take apart you headlight case and know how to wire them
[edit] i made it sound like a hard job but the only hard part is openign the headlight cases takes ages and its tedious
if you want i can make up a kit with hids and projectors for u?
for around $200 and then they are completely legal
only down side is you have to take apart you headlight case and know how to wire them
[edit] i made it sound like a hard job but the only hard part is openign the headlight cases takes ages and its tedious
HIDs aren't legal without lense washers and auto-levellers fitted, I almost guarantee that if you load up your boot and the back sinks down Mr PoPo ain't gonna like your HIDs as they won't automatically level out. I know this because I got chased down the freeway the other week at 10PM at night :lol: Supposedly the truckies in the same direction as I was heading were *mum*ing about a car with high beams on, but they made no mention of that car have a massive antenna on the back of it (I have about a 60cm glass mount UHF antenna on my rear windscreen). What's even more curious is I had already passed coming out of Port Macquarie a car that actually had it's high beams on, so makes me wonder if the cops pulled over the right car, because I could still see a clear distinction between my low beam cut-offs and my high beams....
My kit is just a $60 4300K slimline units off eBay, very nice package and the digital ballasts limit the surge current at start-up with no external wiring to them being needed (they just run off the normal globe sockets). But yeah HIDs are a pretty risky mod. i was just lucky the cop was nice and said to take them off when i got home and didnt defect me...
My kit is just a $60 4300K slimline units off eBay, very nice package and the digital ballasts limit the surge current at start-up with no external wiring to them being needed (they just run off the normal globe sockets). But yeah HIDs are a pretty risky mod. i was just lucky the cop was nice and said to take them off when i got home and didnt defect me...
yeh my cylinders i bought for my hid project have electromagnetic drives built into them so it angles the beam to the road more on low beam, so yeh they are completely legal
best thing i ever did to my car by far
also has angel eye rings which are *woo-hoo*
they are fairly easy to wire up now that i have done it, i did it the hard way, whereas i could have made it addapt to the stock plug if i had thought of it back then
best thing i ever did to my car by far
also has angel eye rings which are *woo-hoo*
they are fairly easy to wire up now that i have done it, i did it the hard way, whereas i could have made it addapt to the stock plug if i had thought of it back then
Nah the automatic levellers which you must have are so that the lights are kept at the right cut off distances when going over bumpbs, up/down hills with varrying load in the car,etc. To do this the car must have a pitch sensor mounted somewhere else in the car to control the auto-levelling.
Plus to be legal you need them to be ADR approved and to be ADR approved the lights must be OEM-fitted at time of manufacture/import. That and OEM HID fitted cars also only use 4300K bulbs so you'll find the 6000K and 8000K are defectable due to being too blue and glarey.
The kit I have didn't need any adapting, they were plug and play. The reason they can get away with it is because they are digitally controlled by a microprocessor which makes sure they don't overload the car's stock wiring on ignition of the HID globe.
Also I was prettu sure that HIDs use a solenoid operated shutter which is moved and lets more light out when the high beams are activated....
Plus to be legal you need them to be ADR approved and to be ADR approved the lights must be OEM-fitted at time of manufacture/import. That and OEM HID fitted cars also only use 4300K bulbs so you'll find the 6000K and 8000K are defectable due to being too blue and glarey.
The kit I have didn't need any adapting, they were plug and play. The reason they can get away with it is because they are digitally controlled by a microprocessor which makes sure they don't overload the car's stock wiring on ignition of the HID globe.
Also I was prettu sure that HIDs use a solenoid operated shutter which is moved and lets more light out when the high beams are activated....
yeh i built my kit tho so... they didnt come with a plug i had to hard wire them
well i dont have auto levelers then, but i do have hi-lo beam angles so i dont blind people
and they really arnt that bright to look at, its alot easier on the eyes than staring into a halogen bulb
i thought anything 3000k -> 6000k was legal? and you have to get 35W or less for main headlights
i talked to my auto electrician about it and thats what he told me
well i do have an OEM pair off 'a' car... just not my car
i dont know how they would overload the stock wiring? mine are transformer actuated (like most id assume) so u turn on the headlight circuit and it feeds 12v to the transformer thru u stock wiring then after the transformer u have some fairly large gauge wire to the bulb, no way it can overload the stock wiring because there would only be a normal current running thru up till the transformer
well i dont have auto levelers then, but i do have hi-lo beam angles so i dont blind people
and they really arnt that bright to look at, its alot easier on the eyes than staring into a halogen bulb
i thought anything 3000k -> 6000k was legal? and you have to get 35W or less for main headlights
i talked to my auto electrician about it and thats what he told me
well i do have an OEM pair off 'a' car... just not my car
i dont know how they would overload the stock wiring? mine are transformer actuated (like most id assume) so u turn on the headlight circuit and it feeds 12v to the transformer thru u stock wiring then after the transformer u have some fairly large gauge wire to the bulb, no way it can overload the stock wiring because there would only be a normal current running thru up till the transformer
Because HIDs are a gas discharge type of bulb the circuitry in the older styled ones pulls a large current on start-up because they have to quickly build up a large electircal charge and then convert it to a very high voltage to 'ignite' the gas in the bulb. Once the gas is ignited you then only need the 35Watts to keep it running.
Fluoro globes in your home work on a similar principle when they start up....
Not sure about the exact legalities of the colour of the bulb but OEM fittment is pretty much always 4300K as that is the optimum colour of light for our eyes, anyhting higher than that strains the eyes more from memory. You should speak to Adrian/SIR-VRX about it all, he's read through all the ADR *poo* in regards to HIDs.
Fluoro globes in your home work on a similar principle when they start up....
Not sure about the exact legalities of the colour of the bulb but OEM fittment is pretty much always 4300K as that is the optimum colour of light for our eyes, anyhting higher than that strains the eyes more from memory. You should speak to Adrian/SIR-VRX about it all, he's read through all the ADR *poo* in regards to HIDs.
neh im not too worried about mine being illegal,
+i dont do anything stupid in my car to get pulled over or peeve the cops to start with
they dont even care when i go thru RBTS or when i drive past them at night
ah yeh i see what u meant now, but the stock wiring still only gets a normal current across it, the burst of current comes at the transformer when u ignite them, thats why if u concentate really hard there is about half a second between when u turn the switch and when u see them start lighting up, its the current building for 0.5 seconds in the transformer and then is released as a bigger current igniting the gas
so typically no more than usual load on the actual stock wiring
(i was a sparky apprentice for a year and a half)
+i dont do anything stupid in my car to get pulled over or peeve the cops to start with
they dont even care when i go thru RBTS or when i drive past them at night
ah yeh i see what u meant now, but the stock wiring still only gets a normal current across it, the burst of current comes at the transformer when u ignite them, thats why if u concentate really hard there is about half a second between when u turn the switch and when u see them start lighting up, its the current building for 0.5 seconds in the transformer and then is released as a bigger current igniting the gas
so typically no more than usual load on the actual stock wiring
(i was a sparky apprentice for a year and a half)
That sudden burst of current is what can cause the issues though, and don't forget also that no ballast runs at 100% efficiency so you'll always be pulling more than 35W overall....
The other think you need to consider is that a if your say running at 13.6V (about what a car usually runs around) a halogen bulb will run at full brightness, but if the voltage dips to 12V for whatever reason (sub for example) the brightness of the globe will decrease. HIDs that are running off switchmode power supplies however will run at constant brightness and simply suck up more current if the voltage dips down, so yes the power ratings may be the same but what's more important is the current draw. Switchmode supplies also have alot of harmonics because they are never pulling a constant load, rather they are switching on/off constantly at a frequency usually around 10-20KHz.
Oh and I'm 4th year dual elec apprentice/ bachelor of elec engineering too....
The other think you need to consider is that a if your say running at 13.6V (about what a car usually runs around) a halogen bulb will run at full brightness, but if the voltage dips to 12V for whatever reason (sub for example) the brightness of the globe will decrease. HIDs that are running off switchmode power supplies however will run at constant brightness and simply suck up more current if the voltage dips down, so yes the power ratings may be the same but what's more important is the current draw. Switchmode supplies also have alot of harmonics because they are never pulling a constant load, rather they are switching on/off constantly at a frequency usually around 10-20KHz.
Oh and I'm 4th year dual elec apprentice/ bachelor of elec engineering too....
Joshyewahh
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iv got diamond visions. they run at 5000k's and giv my headlight beams a nice white/blue tinge. they arent BRIGHT, but r good enough for what i want
Joshyewahh
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they r still pretty
Brown_Aussie
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hey resuliac where did you source your projectors from as i have a set the same as what Jack from X-Racing is selling but at no where near that cost, just the projectors that are fitted into them are left hand domes for both the headlamps, seeing as i still got the stock ones at home was thinking about retro fitting them as you did, shoot me a pm on your setup if you dont mind :d
cheers!!
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