The spreadsheet advises what is required with any upgrade. Yes calipers need to be changed.
 
Hey guys. Just did a track day at mallala in my missus ce lancer. Ran out of brakes and would like to upgrade to something for next track day. Not sure what exactly to do.. would like to stick to 15 inch wheels as it's a budget car.

Is the 256mm upgrade just rotors? Or do I need to change the calipers from the proton also?
Was looking to change the rear to disc also as I feel this will massively help.

Any advise and direction on what to do would be great.

Thanks Jake

Imho, do Magna/fto calipers and mini cooper rotors from the spreadsheet. Retain 4x100 and you go straight to the maximum size for 15”. No point paying near the same money for a lesser upgrade. I’d be sinking money into tyres, sway bars and a proper wheel allignment before doing rear discs. The drums are a weak point, but not as big as “people” make out.
 
276 mm rotors on the front and magna calipers single piston or twin piston will be all you need.
I wouldn't worry about the rears. Good brake pads are also necessary, I use ferodo 2500 and have never had any fade. New brake fluid is also a must.
 
I managed to get a pair of twin pot ts brake calipers, casting number 2207. I think i remember reading some were that fto brake line fit the calipers. Can anyone verify this. Im trying to order hel brake line.
Thank
 
I managed to get a pair of twin pot ts brake calipers, casting number 2207. I think i remember reading some were that fto brake line fit the calipers. Can anyone verify this. Im trying to order hel brake line.
Thank
Have you looked at the picture in the spreadsheet for Cast 2207? does it have the same fitting?
If so then its not a Banjo fitting. Its a inverted flare fitting which I am pretty sure the FTO's are Banjo because they are a 4304 cast.
Also what car did you get them from?
 
They came off a ts magna with abs.

I have been checking the spreadsheet and after cheching it again the fto brake line i was thinking of are a banjo fitting. Look like an eclipse gsr 92-93 brake lines will fit
 
The info regarding eclipse are flakey. They don't exist in Aus either... I would ask for magna lines for the twin pot and model but the same length as stock ce. See if that's possible. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the fitting to the herdlines are the same between the magna and the lancer.
 
Yeah the hard line fittings are the same.
There was no listing for the Eclipse, but there was for the VR4 Galant.
The magna brake lines run up behind the shocker then double back (as a hard line then back to a rubber hose) then to the cars hard line. So they will be way to long.
Ive just asked for a quote from Hel.
See what the quote, hope its not to pricey
 
How hard would it be to retrofit an ABS system in a CE from a model that has ABS?

From memory it would be:
- different hubs for the ABS unit
- ABS loom
- ABS control unit
- brake lines from the booster/ABS brake unit

Edit: Best bet would be to use the FTO setup, but then IIRC ABS also has an interface into the ECU, at least i know it does on modern cars
 
Spetz abs can moved from car to car, I swapped cs lancer abs into a mirage but it was a major job. It works well but I'm not convinced on the race track. Sydney Motorsport park is fine but Wakefield is quite bumpy and the abs doesn't cope. It is good for not flat spotting expensive race tyres though which is why I fitted it to my car.
 
@donki,
I think it interfaces with the ECU if it is used for stability control etc but I would very much doubt a CE MR with ABS would be sophisticated in any way.

@frosty,
I haven't had an issue with brake lock yet but I think it would allow for late braking on the track.
I've locked the wheels once at Winton so far... and that was being kind of silly
 
Just put the proton disc rear with magna set up front.
Went for a test drive. Seams good but I feel like the rear is dragging..

From my understanding of drum set ups is they have a anti bleed back valve or set up in the master to stop the liners moving away from the drum..
Which has made me have to change the master with other conversions etc..
I asked on the lancer Facebook page and a few guys said this wasnt required.

Is this correct? After the test drive I'm questioning this..

Thanks, Jake
 
I've changed rears to 260mm discs and fronts to the 276mm discs with twin pistons (all from an FTO), and with only braided lines it still stops fine. Just have to make sure the system is bleed properly.
 
There is no issues with it stopping. It stops great!

The issue is with the rear brakes dragging. Eg staying somewhat on.. enough to hold the car on a slight hill. With the hand brake down and un adjusted and not in gear...
 
Ah i misread

Can you rotate the disc freely by hand with the car jacked up and handbrake off? In most cases people have issues with the car not being able to use the handbrake at all lol.
 
Ah right.. I have adjusted the hand brake to somewhat work. Maybe that's the issue. I have adjusted it to much..

I'll have a play around with it tomorrow. I was just assuming my original thought was correct about it having an anti bleed back set up in the master.
 
this might be generally useful, it’s about rebuilding the rear calipers on an fto, which look like they might be fairly similar to the proton ones?

 
this might be generally useful, it’s about rebuilding the rear calipers on an fto, which look like they might be fairly similar to the proton ones?


Correct, more or less the same but theres a difference in the piston sizes or the circlip ring I believe
 
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